“It actively hates it! It sneers at those who quite like the flag.”
But Iain Dale interjected: “Sorry. That is going way over the top, no political party hates its own country!”
Paul Mason piled in, saying: “Where is the evidence for this or is just another piece of disinformation from the Donald Trump-loving Turning Point!”
Mr Grimes jokingly replied: “I’m not involved with Turning Point I don’t know where that has come from Paul, it just shows you’ve not got your facts right!”
Paul Mason said: “What is the evidence? What is the evidence? Give us a name!”
Grimes hit back: “Momentum do it all the time! Sneering at the flag, you’re heavily involved with that lot aren’t you.”
And in a scathing zinger, Grimes said: “You are more commie than Corbyn!”
Grimes added: “When Robert Jenrick had the monarch behind him, there were, of course, Labour activists and all the rest of it saying ‘this is ridiculous’.”
The furious debate went on as Paul Mason defended himself: “Hold on a minute, you are allowed in this country to be a republican, I am a republican.
“I am a pro-British citizen but I wish this country was a republic but that doesn’t mean I hate this country.
He concluded: “It’s not unpatriotic of me to say I would prefer that we had an elected president.”